Jimmy Carney

OVERALL STATISTICS

BIRTHAGESIGNED ONFROM
31-10-1878
N/A
Date unknown.
Unknown.
DEBUTLAST MATCHLEFT
25-09-1897 v Tyldesley
Warrington
1905-
CAREERAPPEARANCES (SUBS)
1897-1905
178 (0)
TRIESGOALSDGOALSPTS
7
6
0
33

BIOGRAPHY

Jimmy Carney by Alex Service

Some of the first information about this player is to be found in the St.Helens Newspaper on 16th August 1901 which stated that: “As for the forwards, Carney has come back from fighting the Boers.” Clearly, rugby matters would be a piece of cake after such adventures in South Africa. Born in St.Helens, Jimmy Carney is quite rightly regarded as a favourite of the St.Helens club in their early post Northern Union days just before and after the turn of the century.

His debut was on 25th September 1897 at home to Tyldesley, when the Saints won 11-0 at Knowsley Road and Jimmy scored a try. A forceful forward, he went on to make 178 appearances for the club, his last at Warrington on 23rd December 1905. Unfortunately the visitors lost 0-16 on the day and Jimmy suffered the injury which ended his career.

News of his demise is found in the St.Helens Reporter, whose headline on 24th November 1931 read “Football Idol’s Sad End. Carney Dies Almost Friendless.”

The article continues as follows: “Cheered by thousands in his younger days when he played as a rugby forward for the Saints, Jimmy Carney died almost friendless in the Whiston Institution last week. He was fifty three years of age. A correspondent who knew Carney in his better days refers to the accident that befell Carney when he was in his football prime, putting him out of the game for ever. The correspondent thanks the Reporter for the sympathetic references to Carney’s career and death and adds: ‘Had it not been for the kindness of some relatives who were in constant touch with Old Jim during his last brief illness and supplied his wants, he would have died almost friendless. I appreciate the Reporter’s kindly references to him. I’m sure that were it possible for Old Jim to know that he was remembered he would have plucked up sufficient courage to battle against the loneliness that overcame him in the end. Jim Carney befriended many a man when he was in his pomp, but had it not been for his sister in law, nobody would have known of Old Jim’s whereabouts, she having to make special enquiries herself, thus you will understand that otherwise he would have had a pauper’s funeral and Old Jim never deserved that.’ In accordance with Carney’s last wishes, he was buried in his mother’s grave at St.Helens Cemetery on Saturday, the cortege proceeding from his sister in laws home at Cowley Street.”

Unfortunately, his former employers Greenall Whitley, for whom he worked as an ‘odd job’ man did not know the time of the funeral and their representative turned up with a wreath from the firm, but arrived to find the service concluded and the mourners gone. Jimmy had obviously changed appearance since finishing playing. The Reporter continued in the Sports Section: “Poor Jimmy Carney who died on the day they buried Kitty Briers was quite a character in his day and his flaming red beard will be a familiar sight to be missed as well as his pungent comments on play.”

SEASON STATISTICS

Season (Official Matches)TriesGoalsDGoalsMatches
1897~981 0 0 18
1898~990 1 0 14
1899~000 0 0 18
1901~021 1 0 28
1902~031 1 0 27
1903~042 3 0 38
1904~051 0 0 22
1905~06 1 0 0 13
TOTALS:7 6 0 178
Season (Other Matches)TriesGoalsDGoalsMatches
1896~97 0001
1897~98 0005
1898~990003
1899~000001
1901~02 0001
TOTALS:00011

ALL MATCHES

DatePosOpponentsCompSeasonVenueFTFTOTGDGNPS**
16th Apr 1897
W
10 Halifax * Fr 1896~97 H 11 3 VIEW
25th Sep 1897
W
8 Tyldesley L 1897~98 H 11 0 1 VIEW
2nd Oct 1897
W
8 Wigan L 1897~98 A 17 7 VIEW
9th Oct 1897
W
8 Broughton Rangers L 1897~98 A 8 0 VIEW
16th Oct 1897
L
8 Widnes L 1897~98 H 3 13 VIEW
23rd Oct 1897
L
10 Warrington L 1897~98 H 3 8 VIEW
30th Oct 1897
L
11 Runcorn L 1897~98 A 0 11 VIEW
6th Nov 1897
W
14 Hull K.R. * Fr 1897~98 A 24 13 VIEW
13th Nov 1897
L
14 Swinton L 1897~98 A 0 13 VIEW
20th Nov 1897
L
6 Birkenhead * Fr 1897~98 A 5 6 VIEW
27th Nov 1897
L
13 Oldham L 1897~98 H 4 6 VIEW
4th Dec 1897
W
14 Birkenhead * Fr 1897~98 H 8 3 VIEW
11th Dec 1897
L
9 Stockport L 1897~98 A 7 14 VIEW
27th Dec 1897
L
9 Warrington L 1897~98 A 0 8 VIEW
1st Jan 1898
L
9 Broughton Rangers L 1897~98 H 6 23 VIEW
8th Jan 1898
L
12 Swinton L 1897~98 H 5 13 VIEW
15th Jan 1898
L
12 Tyldesley L 1897~98 A 3 8 VIEW
22nd Jan 1898
W
12 Wigan L 1897~98 H 9 8 VIEW
12th Feb 1898
L
10 Oldham L 1897~98 A 0 11 VIEW
19th Mar 1898
W
11 Wigan * Fr 1897~98 A 10 3 VIEW
24th Mar 1898
L
11 Swinton* Fr 1897~98 A 3 5 VIEW
26th Mar 1898
W
13 Runcorn L 1897~98 H 11 0 VIEW
2nd Apr 1898
L
13 Widnes L 1897~98 A 6 7 VIEW
16th Apr 1898
D
13 Morecambe L 1897~98 H 5 5 VIEW
29th Oct 1898
W
11 Wigan L 1898~99 A 22 3 1 VIEW
5th Nov 1898
L
11 Leigh L 1898~99 H 0 8 VIEW
12th Nov 1898
W
11 Wigan L 1898~99 H 10 7 VIEW
19th Nov 1898
L
11 Leigh L 1898~99 A 2 5 VIEW
26th Nov 1898
D
11 Widnes L 1898~99 H 0 0 VIEW
3rd Dec 1898
W
14 Birkenhead* Fr 1898~99 H 14 0 VIEW
10th Dec 1898
L
14 Hull* Fr 1898~99 A 0 19 VIEW
17th Dec 1898
L
8 Broughton Rangers L 1898~99 A 2 20 VIEW
18th Feb 1899
W
13 Warrington L 1898~99 H 12 3 VIEW
4th Mar 1899
W
8 Stockport L 1898~99 A 13 3 VIEW
11th Mar 1899
L
8 Rochdale Hornets L 1898~99 A 0 16 VIEW
18th Mar 1899
W
8 Whitworth CC1 1898~99 H 12 3 VIEW
22nd Mar 1899
W
13 Kendal * Fr 1898~99 A 5 3 VIEW
25th Mar 1899
D
8 Morecambe CC2 1898~99 H 0 0 VIEW
29th Mar 1899
D
8 Morecambe CC2(rep) 1898~99 A 5 5 VIEW
15th Apr 1899
L
8 Runcorn L 1898~99 A 8 11 VIEW
20th Apr 1899
W
8 Stockport L 1898~99 H 13 10 VIEW
2nd Sep 1899
D
10 Warrington L 1899~00 H 3 3 VIEW
9th Sep 1899
L
10 Widnes L 1899~00 H 0 3 VIEW
16th Sep 1899
W
10 Swinton L 1899~00 H 17 3 VIEW
23rd Sep 1899
W
11 Lancaster* Fr 1899~00 H 17 3 VIEW
30th Sep 1899
W
10 Broughton Rangers L 1899~00 A 14 0 VIEW
7th Oct 1899
L
10 Rochdale Hornets L 1899~00 A 0 7 VIEW
14th Oct 1899
W
10 Wigan L 1899~00 H 5 0 VIEW
21st Oct 1899
W
10 Stockport L 1899~00 H 17 3 VIEW
28th Oct 1899
L
10 Widnes L 1899~00 A 3 5 VIEW
4th Nov 1899
W
10 Wigan L 1899~00 A 6 0 VIEW
11th Nov 1899
W
10 Salford L 1899~00 H 8 6 VIEW
25th Nov 1899
W
10 Stockport L 1899~00 A 6 3 VIEW
2nd Dec 1899
W
10 Tyldesley L 1899~00 H 26 3 VIEW
9th Dec 1899
W
10 Oldham L 1899~00 H 17 14 VIEW
23rd Dec 1899
W
10 Warrington L 1899~00 A 11 0 VIEW
25th Dec 1899
W
10 Broughton Rangers L 1899~00 H 4 0 VIEW
26th Dec 1899
L
10 Millom L 1899~00 A 8 10 VIEW
1st Jan 1900
W
10 Leigh L 1899~00 H 26 0 VIEW
6th Jan 1900
D
10 Swinton L 1899~00 A 0 0 VIEW
28th Sep 1901
W
13 Rochdale Hornets L 1901~02 A 9 2 VIEW
5th Oct 1901
W
13 Barrow L 1901~02 H 7 3 VIEW
12th Oct 1901
L
13 Stockport L 1901~02 A 0 3 VIEW
19th Oct 1901
L
13 Runcorn SWLL 1901~02 H 0 2 VIEW
26th Oct 1901
L
13 Lancaster L 1901~02 A 4 17 1 VIEW
2nd Nov 1901
W
13 Radcliffe L 1901~02 A 19 0 VIEW
9th Nov 1901
L
13 Warrington SWLL 1901~02 H 9 17 VIEW
16th Nov 1901
W
13 Birkenhead Wanderers L AB 1901~02 A 5 0 VIEW
23rd Nov 1901
W
13 Millom L 1901~02 A 8 6 VIEW
30th Nov 1901
L
13 Warrington SWLL 1901~02 A 5 11 VIEW
7th Dec 1901
W
13 Radcliffe L 1901~02 H 23 6 VIEW
14th Dec 1901
L
13 Barrow L 1901~02 A 5 7 VIEW
25th Dec 1901
W
13 Hull K.R. L 1901~02 H 12 3 VIEW
26th Dec 1901
W
13 Leigh SWLL 1901~02 H 11 8 VIEW
1st Jan 1902
W
13 Rochdale Hornets L 1901~02 H 7 5 VIEW
4th Jan 1902
W
13 Altrincham L 1901~02 A 11 0 VIEW
18th Jan 1902
W
13 Stockport L 1901~02 H 13 7 VIEW
25th Jan 1902
W
13 Birkenhead Wanderers L 1901~02 A 6 0 VIEW
1st Feb 1902
W
13 Altrincham L 1901~02 H 35 0 VIEW
8th Feb 1902
D
13 Millom L 1901~02 H 3 3 VIEW
22nd Feb 1902
L
13 Leigh SWLL 1901~02 A 3 13 VIEW
1st Mar 1902
W
13 Morecambe L 1901~02 H 3 2 VIEW
8th Mar 1902
W
13 Widnes L & SWLL 1901~02 A 3 2 VIEW
15th Mar 1902
L
13 Hull K.R. CC1 1901~02 A 0 7 VIEW
29th Mar 1902
W
11 Oldham * Fr 1901~02 A 26 2 VIEW
31st Mar 1902
L
13 Runcorn SWLL 1901~02 A 3 11 VIEW
5th Apr 1902
W
13 Birkenhead Wanderers L 1901~02 H 13 0 1 VIEW
12th Apr 1902
L
13 Wigan L & SWLL 1901~02 A 2 11 VIEW
23rd Apr 1902
W
13 Morecambe L 1901~02 A 10 9 VIEW
13th Sep 1902
L
14 Huddersfield L 1902~03 A 3 8 VIEW
20th Sep 1902
L
14 Warrington L 1902~03 H 5 18 VIEW
27th Sep 1902
W
14 Brighouse Rovers L 1902~03 A 4 3 VIEW
4th Oct 1902
L
14 Swinton L 1902~03 H 6 10 VIEW
18th Oct 1902
L
14 Batley L 1902~03 A 4 7 VIEW
25th Oct 1902
W
14 Salford L 1902~03 H 9 5 VIEW
1st Nov 1902
L
14 Halifax L 1902~03 A 0 8 VIEW
8th Nov 1902
L
14 Leigh L 1902~03 H 2 13 VIEW
15th Nov 1902
W
14 Hull L 1902~03 A 4 3 VIEW
22nd Nov 1902
L
14 Oldham L 1902~03 H 0 3 VIEW
29th Nov 1902
L
14 Broughton Rangers L 1902~03 A 0 23 VIEW
13th Dec 1902
L
14 Hunslet L 1902~03 A 3 9 VIEW
20th Dec 1902
L
14 Wigan L 1902~03 H 5 6 VIEW
27th Dec 1902
L
14 Widnes L 1902~03 A 0 8 VIEW
1st Jan 1903
W
14 Batley L 1902~03 H 7 5 VIEW
3rd Jan 1903
L
14 Bradford L 1902~03 A 2 14 VIEW
10th Jan 1903
L
14 Huddersfield L 1902~03 H 5 13 1 VIEW
24th Jan 1903
L
14 Brighouse Rangers L 1902~03 H 0 7 VIEW
14th Feb 1903
W
14 Warrington CC1 1902~03 H 6 3 VIEW
21st Feb 1903
L
14 Rochdale Hornets CC2 1902~03 H 2 8 VIEW
24th Feb 1903
L
14 Warrington L 1902~03 A 0 6 VIEW
28th Feb 1903
W
14 Halifax L 1902~03 H 7 3 VIEW
7th Mar 1903
W
14 Leigh L 1902~03 A 8 5 VIEW
14th Mar 1903
W
14 Hull L 1902~03 H 10 8 1 VIEW
4th Apr 1903
L
14 Hull K.R. L 1902~03 H 2 6 VIEW
13th Apr 1903
L
13 Salford L 1902~03 A 3 11 VIEW
25th Apr 1903
W
12 Widnes L 1902~03 H 8 3 VIEW
1st Sep 1903
W
8 Leigh SWLL 1903~04 A 5 2 VIEW
5th Sep 1903
W
8 Dewsbury L 1903~04 H 29 5 1 VIEW
12th Sep 1903
W
8 Birkenhead Wanderers L 1903~04 A 3 0 VIEW
19th Sep 1903
W
8 Barrow L 1903~04 H 18 6 VIEW
26th Sep 1903
L
8 Holbeck L 1903~04 A 3 19 VIEW
24th Oct 1903
D
8 Morecambe L 1903~04 A 2 2 VIEW
31st Oct 1903
W
8 Brighouse Rangers L 1903~04 H 10 0 VIEW
7th Nov 1903
W
8 South Shields L 1903~04 A 6 0 VIEW
21st Nov 1903
D
8 Bramley L 1903~04 A 0 0 VIEW
28th Nov 1903
W
8 Wakefield Trinity L 1903~04 H 11 8 VIEW
5th Dec 1903
W
8 Pontefract L 1903~04 A 10 3 VIEW
12th Dec 1903
L
8 Castleford L 1903~04 A 0 7 VIEW
19th Dec 1903
W
8 Rochdale Hornets L OBJ 1903~04 H 14 2 VIEW
25th Dec 1903
L
8 Wigan SWLL 1903~04 A 6 12 VIEW
26th Dec 1903
L
8 Lancaster L OBJ 1903~04 A 3 10 VIEW
9th Jan 1904
W
8 Birkenhead Wanderers L 1903~04 H 3 0 VIEW
16th Jan 1904
W
8 Barrow L 1903~04 A 8 0 VIEW
23rd Jan 1904
W
8 Holbeck L 1903~04 H 10 0 VIEW
30th Jan 1904
W
8 Normanton L 1903~04 A 8 6 VIEW
13th Feb 1904
L
8 York L 1903~04 A 0 5 VIEW
16th Feb 1904
D
8 Dewsbury L 1903~04 A 3 3 VIEW
20th Feb 1904
W
8 Morecambe L 1903~04 H 8 0 VIEW
22nd Feb 1904
W
8 Rochdale Hornets L 1903~04 H 6 0 VIEW
27th Feb 1904
L
8 Brighouse Rangers L 1903~04 A 0 3 VIEW
5th Mar 1904
W
8 Highfield CCP 1903~04 H 48 5 3 VIEW
12th Mar 1904
L
8 Halifax CC1 1903~04 A 0 15 VIEW
16th Mar 1904
W
8 Millom L 1903~04 A 3 0 VIEW
19th Mar 1904
W
8 Bramley L 1903~04 H 21 2 1 VIEW
26th Mar 1904
L
8 Wakefield Trinity L 1903~04 A 0 20 VIEW
1st Apr 1904
W
8 Widnes SWLL 1903~04 A 8 4 VIEW
2nd Apr 1904
D
8 Runcorn SWLL 1903~04 A 3 3 VIEW
4th Apr 1904
L
8 Warrington SWLL 1903~04 A 3 19 VIEW
9th Apr 1904
W
8 Castleford L 1903~04 H 31 3 VIEW
13th Apr 1904
W
8 Lancaster L 1903~04 A 12 2 VIEW
16th Apr 1904
L
8 Rochdale Hornets L 1903~04 A 0 5 VIEW
21st Apr 1904
W
8 Pontefract L 1903~04 H 19 0 VIEW
30th Apr 1904
W
8 South Shields L 1903~04 H 23 0 VIEW
14th May 1904
W
8 Holbeck LPO 1903~04 N 7 0 VIEW
3rd Sep 1904
L
8 Oldham L 1904~05 H 4 10 VIEW
10th Sep 1904
L
8 Wigan L 1904~05 H 7 11 VIEW
17th Sep 1904
L
8 Swinton L 1904~05 A 7 17 VIEW
24th Sep 1904
L
8 Broughton Rangers L 1904~05 A 5 24 VIEW
12th Nov 1904
W
8 Wakefield Trinity L 1904~05 H 5 0 VIEW
19th Nov 1904
L
8 Leigh L 1904~05 A 5 14 VIEW
3rd Dec 1904
L
8 Hull L 1904~05 A 0 14 VIEW
10th Dec 1904
L
8 Bradford L 1904~05 H 8 18 VIEW
17th Dec 1904
L
8 Leeds L 1904~05 A 2 17 VIEW
24th Dec 1904
W
8 Runcorn L 1904~05 H 9 5 VIEW
26th Dec 1904
D
8 Warrington L 1904~05 H 0 0 VIEW
31st Dec 1904
L
8 Oldham L 1904~05 A 3 13 VIEW
7th Jan 1905
L
8 Wigan L 1904~05 A 3 15 VIEW
11th Jan 1905
W
8 Halifax L 1904~05 H 14 5 1 VIEW
14th Jan 1905
W
8 Swinton L 1904~05 H 5 3 VIEW
21st Jan 1905
L
8 Broughton Rangers L 1904~05 H 6 8 VIEW
28th Jan 1905
L
8 Hull K.R. L 1904~05 A 3 6 VIEW
4th Feb 1905
W
8 Batley L 1904~05 H 4 0 VIEW
11th Feb 1905
L
8 Hunslet L 1904~05 A 5 16 VIEW
18th Feb 1905
L
8 Widnes L 1904~05 H 5 7 VIEW
25th Feb 1905
L
8 Salford L 1904~05 A 2 19 VIEW
18th Mar 1905
L
8 Broughton Rangers CC2 1904~05 A 0 18 VIEW
2nd Sep 1905
W
10 Millom L 1905~06 H 34 3 1 VIEW
9th Sep 1905
W
10 Morecambe L 1905~06 H 26 6 VIEW
16th Sep 1905
L
10 Widnes L 1905~06 A 2 3 VIEW
23rd Sep 1905
W
10 Hull L 1905~06 H 8 5 VIEW
30th Sep 1905
L
10 Salford L 1905~06 A 5 25 VIEW
14th Oct 1905
L
10 Wigan LC1 1905~06 A 0 18 VIEW
21st Oct 1905
L
10 Runcorn L 1905~06 A 3 12 VIEW
4th Nov 1905
W
10 Dewsbury L 1905~06 A 3 2 VIEW
18th Nov 1905
W
10 Rochdale Hornets L 1905~06 A 11 0 VIEW
2nd Dec 1905
L
10 Oldham L 1905~06 H 7 15 VIEW
9th Dec 1905
W
10 Barrow L 1905~06 H 25 0 VIEW
16th Dec 1905
W
10 Millom L 1905~06 A 2 0 VIEW
23rd Dec 1905
L
10 Warrington L 1905~06 A 0 16 VIEW
*Unofficial Match. **Non Playing Sub.
WINS : 93 | LOSSES : 84 | DRAWS : 12

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