Jimmy Carney

OVERALL STATISTICS

BIRTHAGESIGNED ONFROMDEBUTLAST MATCHLEFT
31-10-1878
N/A
Date unknown.
Unknown.
25-09-1897 v Tyldesley
Warrington
1905-
CAREERAPPEARANCES (SUBS)TRIESGOALSDGOALSPTS
1897-1905
178 (0)
7
6
0
33

BIOGRAPHY

Jimmy Carney by Alex Service

Some of the first information about this player is to be found in the St.Helens Newspaper on 16th August 1901 which stated that: “As for the forwards, Carney has come back from fighting the Boers.” Clearly, rugby matters would be a piece of cake after such adventures in South Africa. Born in St.Helens, Jimmy Carney is quite rightly regarded as a favourite of the St.Helens club in their early post Northern Union days just before and after the turn of the century.

His debut was on 25th September 1897 at home to Tyldesley, when the Saints won 11-0 at Knowsley Road and Jimmy scored a try. A forceful forward, he went on to make 178 appearances for the club, his last at Warrington on 23rd December 1905. Unfortunately the visitors lost 0-16 on the day and Jimmy suffered the injury which ended his career.

News of his demise is found in the St.Helens Reporter, whose headline on 24th November 1931 read “Football Idol’s Sad End. Carney Dies Almost Friendless.”

The article continues as follows: “Cheered by thousands in his younger days when he played as a rugby forward for the Saints, Jimmy Carney died almost friendless in the Whiston Institution last week. He was fifty three years of age. A correspondent who knew Carney in his better days refers to the accident that befell Carney when he was in his football prime, putting him out of the game for ever. The correspondent thanks the Reporter for the sympathetic references to Carney’s career and death and adds: ‘Had it not been for the kindness of some relatives who were in constant touch with Old Jim during his last brief illness and supplied his wants, he would have died almost friendless. I appreciate the Reporter’s kindly references to him. I’m sure that were it possible for Old Jim to know that he was remembered he would have plucked up sufficient courage to battle against the loneliness that overcame him in the end. Jim Carney befriended many a man when he was in his pomp, but had it not been for his sister in law, nobody would have known of Old Jim’s whereabouts, she having to make special enquiries herself, thus you will understand that otherwise he would have has a pauper’s funeral and Old Jim never deserved that.’ In accordance with Carney’s last wishes, he was buried in his mother’s grave at St.Helens Cemetery on Saturday, the cortege proceeding from his sister in laws home at Cowley Street.”

Unfortunately, his former employers Greenall Whitley, for whom he worked as an ‘odd job’ man did not know the time of the funeral and their representative turned up with a wreath from the firm, but arrived to find the service concluded and the mourners gone. Jimmy had obviously changed appearance since finishing playing. The Reporter continued in the Sports Section: “Poor Jimmy Carney who died on the day they buried Kitty Briers was quite a character in his day and his flaming red beard will be a familiar sight to be missed as well as his pungent comments on play.”

SEASON STATISTICS

Season (Official Matches)TriesGoalsDGoalsMatches
1897~981 0 0 18
1898~990 1 0 14
1899~000 0 0 18
1901~021 1 0 28
1902~03 1 1 0 27
1903~042 3 0 38
1904~051 0 0 22
1905~06 1 0 0 13
TOTALS:7 6 0 178
Season (Other Matches)TriesGoalsDGoalsMatches
1896~97 0001
1897~98 0005
1898~99 0003
1899~000001
1901~02 0001
TOTALS:00011

ALL MATCHES

DatePosOpponentsCompSeasonVenueFTFTOTGDGNPS**
16th Apr 1897 W 10 Halifax * Fr 1896~97 H 11 3 V
25th Sep 1897 W 8 Tyldesley L 1897~98 H 11 0 1 V
2nd Oct 1897 W 8 Wigan L 1897~98 A 17 7 V
9th Oct 1897 W 8 Broughton Rangers L 1897~98 A 8 0 V
16th Oct 1897 L 8 Widnes L 1897~98 H 3 13 V
23rd Oct 1897 L 10 Warrington L 1897~98 H 3 8 V
30th Oct 1897 L 11 Runcorn L 1897~98 A 0 11 V
6th Nov 1897 W 14 Hull K.R. * Fr 1897~98 A 24 13 V
13th Nov 1897 L 14 Swinton L 1897~98 A 0 13 V
20th Nov 1897 L 6 Birkenhead * Fr 1897~98 A 5 6 V
27th Nov 1897 L 13 Oldham L 1897~98 H 4 6 V
4th Dec 1897 W 14 Birkenhead * Fr 1897~98 H 8 3 V
11th Dec 1897 L 9 Stockport L 1897~98 A 7 14 V
27th Dec 1897 L 9 Warrington L 1897~98 A 0 8 V
1st Jan 1898 L 9 Broughton Rangers L 1897~98 H 6 23 V
8th Jan 1898 L 12 Swinton L 1897~98 H 5 13 V
15th Jan 1898 L 12 Tyldesley L 1897~98 A 3 8 V
22nd Jan 1898 W 12 Wigan L 1897~98 H 9 8 V
12th Feb 1898 L 10 Oldham L 1897~98 A 0 11 V
19th Mar 1898 W 11 Wigan * Fr 1897~98 A 10 3 V
24th Mar 1898 L 11 Swinton* Fr 1897~98 A 3 5 V
26th Mar 1898 W 13 Runcorn L 1897~98 H 11 0 V
2nd Apr 1898 L 13 Widnes L 1897~98 A 6 7 V
16th Apr 1898 D 13 Morecambe L 1897~98 H 5 5 V
29th Oct 1898 W 11 Wigan L 1898~99 A 22 3 1 V
5th Nov 1898 L 11 Leigh L 1898~99 H 0 8 V
12th Nov 1898 W 11 Wigan L 1898~99 H 10 7 V
19th Nov 1898 L 11 Leigh L 1898~99 A 2 5 V
26th Nov 1898 D 11 Widnes L 1898~99 H 0 0 V
3rd Dec 1898 W 14 Birkenhead* Fr 1898~99 H 14 0 V
10th Dec 1898 L 14 Hull* Fr 1898~99 A 0 19 V
17th Dec 1898 L 8 Broughton Rangers L 1898~99 A 2 20 V
18th Feb 1899 W 13 Warrington L 1898~99 H 12 3 V
4th Mar 1899 W 8 Stockport L 1898~99 A 13 3 V
11th Mar 1899 L 8 Rochdale Hornets L 1898~99 A 0 16 V
18th Mar 1899 W 8 Whitworth CC1 1898~99 H 12 3 V
22nd Mar 1899 W 13 Kendal * Fr 1898~99 A 5 3 V
25th Mar 1899 D 8 Morecambe CC2 1898~99 H 0 0 V
29th Mar 1899 D 8 Morecambe CC2(rep) 1898~99 A 5 5 V
15th Apr 1899 L 8 Runcorn L 1898~99 A 8 11 V
20th Apr 1899 W 8 Stockport L 1898~99 H 13 10 V
2nd Sep 1899 D 10 Warrington L 1899~00 H 3 3 V
9th Sep 1899 L 10 Widnes L 1899~00 H 0 3 V
16th Sep 1899 W 10 Swinton L 1899~00 H 17 3 V
23rd Sep 1899 W 11 Lancaster* Fr 1899~00 H 17 3 V
30th Sep 1899 W 10 Broughton Rangers L 1899~00 A 14 0 V
7th Oct 1899 L 10 Rochdale Hornets L 1899~00 A 0 7 V
14th Oct 1899 W 10 Wigan L 1899~00 H 5 0 V
21st Oct 1899 W 10 Stockport L 1899~00 H 17 3 V
28th Oct 1899 L 10 Widnes L 1899~00 A 3 5 V
4th Nov 1899 W 10 Wigan L 1899~00 A 6 0 V
11th Nov 1899 W 10 Salford L 1899~00 H 8 6 V
25th Nov 1899 W 10 Stockport L 1899~00 A 6 3 V
2nd Dec 1899 W 10 Tyldesley L 1899~00 H 26 3 V
9th Dec 1899 W 10 Oldham L 1899~00 H 17 14 V
23rd Dec 1899 W 10 Warrington L 1899~00 A 11 0 V
25th Dec 1899 W 10 Broughton Rangers L 1899~00 H 4 0 V
26th Dec 1899 L 10 Millom L 1899~00 A 8 10 V
1st Jan 1900 W 10 Leigh L 1899~00 H 26 0 V
6th Jan 1900 D 10 Swinton L 1899~00 A 0 0 V
28th Sep 1901 W 13 Rochdale Hornets L 1901~02 A 9 2 V
5th Oct 1901 W 13 Barrow L 1901~02 H 7 3 V
12th Oct 1901 L 13 Stockport L 1901~02 A 0 3 V
19th Oct 1901 L 13 Runcorn SWLL 1901~02 H 0 2 V
26th Oct 1901 L 13 Lancaster L 1901~02 A 4 17 1 V
2nd Nov 1901 W 13 Radcliffe L 1901~02 A 19 0 V
9th Nov 1901 L 13 Warrington SWLL 1901~02 H 9 17 V
16th Nov 1901 W 13 Birkenhead Wanderers L AB 1901~02 A 5 0 V
23rd Nov 1901 W 13 Millom L 1901~02 A 8 6 V
30th Nov 1901 L 13 Warrington SWLL 1901~02 A 5 11 V
7th Dec 1901 W 13 Radcliffe L 1901~02 H 23 6 V
14th Dec 1901 L 13 Barrow L 1901~02 A 5 7 V
25th Dec 1901 W 13 Hull K.R. L 1901~02 H 12 3 V
26th Dec 1901 W 13 Leigh SWLL 1901~02 H 11 8 V
1st Jan 1902 W 13 Rochdale Hornets L 1901~02 H 7 5 V
4th Jan 1902 W 13 Altrincham L 1901~02 A 11 0 V
18th Jan 1902 W 13 Stockport L 1901~02 H 13 7 V
25th Jan 1902 W 13 Birkenhead Wanderers L 1901~02 A 6 0 V
1st Feb 1902 W 13 Altrincham L 1901~02 H 35 0 V
8th Feb 1902 D 13 Millom L 1901~02 H 3 3 V
22nd Feb 1902 L 13 Leigh SWLL 1901~02 A 3 13 V
1st Mar 1902 W 13 Morecambe L 1901~02 H 3 2 V
8th Mar 1902 W 13 Widnes L & SWLL 1901~02 A 3 2 V
15th Mar 1902 L 13 Hull K.R. CC1 1901~02 A 0 7 V
29th Mar 1902 W 11 Oldham * Fr 1901~02 A 26 2 V
31st Mar 1902 L 13 Runcorn SWLL 1901~02 A 3 11 V
5th Apr 1902 W 13 Birkenhead Wanderers L 1901~02 H 13 0 1 V
12th Apr 1902 L 13 Wigan L & SWLL 1901~02 A 2 11 V
23rd Apr 1902 W 13 Morecambe L 1901~02 A 10 9 V
13th Sep 1902 L 14 Huddersfield L 1902~03 A 3 8 V
20th Sep 1902 L 14 Warrington L 1902~03 H 5 18 V
27th Sep 1902 W 14 Brighouse Rovers L 1902~03 A 4 3 V
4th Oct 1902 L 14 Swinton L 1902~03 H 6 10 V
18th Oct 1902 L 14 Batley L 1902~03 A 4 7 V
25th Oct 1902 W 14 Salford L 1902~03 H 9 5 V
1st Nov 1902 L 14 Halifax L 1902~03 A 0 8 V
8th Nov 1902 L 14 Leigh L 1902~03 H 2 13 V
15th Nov 1902 W 14 Hull L 1902~03 A 4 3 V
22nd Nov 1902 L 14 Oldham L 1902~03 H 0 3 V
29th Nov 1902 L 14 Broughton Rangers L 1902~03 A 0 23 V
13th Dec 1902 L 14 Hunslet L 1902~03 A 3 9 V
20th Dec 1902 L 14 Wigan L 1902~03 H 5 6 V
27th Dec 1902 L 14 Widnes L 1902~03 A 0 8 V
1st Jan 1903 W 14 Batley L 1902~03 H 7 5 V
3rd Jan 1903 L 14 Bradford L 1902~03 A 2 14 V
10th Jan 1903 L 14 Huddersfield L 1902~03 H 5 13 1 V
24th Jan 1903 L 14 Brighouse Rovers L 1902~03 H 0 7 V
14th Feb 1903 W 14 Warrington CC1 1902~03 H 6 3 V
21st Feb 1903 L 14 Rochdale Hornets CC2 1902~03 H 2 8 V
24th Feb 1903 L 14 Warrington L 1902~03 A 0 6 V
28th Feb 1903 W 14 Halifax L 1902~03 H 7 3 V
7th Mar 1903 W 14 Leigh L 1902~03 A 8 5 V
14th Mar 1903 W 14 Hull L 1902~03 H 10 8 1 V
4th Apr 1903 L 14 Hull K.R. L 1902~03 H 2 6 V
13th Apr 1903 L 13 Salford L 1902~03 A 3 11 V
25th Apr 1903 W 12 Widnes L 1902~03 H 8 3 V
1st Sep 1903 W 8 Leigh SWLL 1903~04 A 5 2 V
5th Sep 1903 W 8 Dewsbury L 1903~04 H 29 5 1 V
12th Sep 1903 W 8 Birkenhead Wanderers L 1903~04 A 3 0 V
19th Sep 1903 W 8 Barrow L 1903~04 H 18 6 V
26th Sep 1903 L 8 Holbeck L 1903~04 A 3 19 V
24th Oct 1903 D 8 Morecambe L 1903~04 A 2 2 V
31st Oct 1903 W 8 Brighouse Rovers L 1903~04 H 10 0 V
7th Nov 1903 W 8 South Shields L 1903~04 A 6 0 V
21st Nov 1903 D 8 Bramley L 1903~04 A 0 0 V
28th Nov 1903 W 8 Wakefield Trinity L 1903~04 H 11 8 V
5th Dec 1903 W 8 Pontefract L 1903~04 A 10 3 V
12th Dec 1903 L 8 Castleford L 1903~04 A 0 7 V
19th Dec 1903 W 8 Rochdale Hornets L OBJ 1903~04 H 14 2 V
25th Dec 1903 L 8 Wigan SWLL 1903~04 A 6 12 V
26th Dec 1903 L 8 Lancaster L OBJ 1903~04 A 3 10 V
9th Jan 1904 W 8 Birkenhead Wanderers L 1903~04 H 3 0 V
16th Jan 1904 W 8 Barrow L 1903~04 A 8 0 V
23rd Jan 1904 W 8 Holbeck L 1903~04 H 10 0 V
30th Jan 1904 W 8 Normanton L 1903~04 A 8 6 V
13th Feb 1904 L 8 York L 1903~04 A 0 5 V
16th Feb 1904 D 8 Dewsbury L 1903~04 A 3 3 V
20th Feb 1904 W 8 Morecambe L 1903~04 H 8 0 V
22nd Feb 1904 W 8 Rochdale Hornets L 1903~04 H 6 0 V
27th Feb 1904 L 8 Brighouse Rovers L 1903~04 A 0 3 V
5th Mar 1904 W 8 Highfield CCP 1903~04 H 48 5 3 V
12th Mar 1904 L 8 Halifax CC1 1903~04 A 0 15 V
16th Mar 1904 W 8 Millom L 1903~04 A 3 0 V
19th Mar 1904 W 8 Bramley L 1903~04 H 21 2 1 V
26th Mar 1904 L 8 Wakefield Trinity L 1903~04 A 0 20 V
1st Apr 1904 W 8 Widnes SWLL 1903~04 A 8 4 V
2nd Apr 1904 D 8 Runcorn SWLL 1903~04 A 3 3 V
4th Apr 1904 L 8 Warrington SWLL 1903~04 A 3 19 V
9th Apr 1904 W 8 Castleford L 1903~04 H 31 3 V
13th Apr 1904 W 8 Lancaster L 1903~04 A 12 2 V
16th Apr 1904 L 8 Rochdale Hornets L 1903~04 A 0 5 V
21st Apr 1904 W 8 Pontefract L 1903~04 H 19 0 V
30th Apr 1904 W 8 South Shields L 1903~04 H 23 0 V
14th May 1904 W 8 Holbeck LPO 1903~04 N 7 0 V
3rd Sep 1904 L 8 Oldham L 1904~05 H 4 10 V
10th Sep 1904 L 8 Wigan L 1904~05 H 7 11 V
17th Sep 1904 L 8 Swinton L 1904~05 A 7 17 V
24th Sep 1904 L 8 Broughton Rangers L 1904~05 A 5 24 V
12th Nov 1904 W 8 Wakefield Trinity L 1904~05 H 5 0 V
19th Nov 1904 L 8 Leigh L 1904~05 A 5 14 V
3rd Dec 1904 L 8 Hull L 1904~05 A 0 14 V
10th Dec 1904 L 8 Bradford L 1904~05 H 8 18 V
17th Dec 1904 L 8 Leeds L 1904~05 A 2 17 V
24th Dec 1904 W 8 Runcorn L 1904~05 H 9 5 V
26th Dec 1904 D 8 Warrington L 1904~05 H 0 0 V
31st Dec 1904 L 8 Oldham L 1904~05 A 3 13 V
7th Jan 1905 L 8 Wigan L 1904~05 A 3 15 V
11th Jan 1905 W 8 Halifax L 1904~05 H 14 5 1 V
14th Jan 1905 W 8 Swinton L 1904~05 H 5 3 V
21st Jan 1905 L 8 Broughton Rangers L 1904~05 H 6 8 V
28th Jan 1905 L 8 Hull K.R. L 1904~05 A 3 6 V
4th Feb 1905 W 8 Batley L 1904~05 H 4 0 V
11th Feb 1905 L 8 Hunslet L 1904~05 A 5 16 V
18th Feb 1905 L 8 Widnes L 1904~05 H 5 7 V
25th Feb 1905 L 8 Salford L 1904~05 A 2 19 V
18th Mar 1905 L 8 Broughton Rangers CC2 1904~05 A 0 18 V
2nd Sep 1905 W 10 Millom L 1905~06 H 34 3 1 V
9th Sep 1905 W 10 Morecambe L 1905~06 H 26 6 V
16th Sep 1905 L 10 Widnes L 1905~06 A 2 3 V
23rd Sep 1905 W 10 Hull L 1905~06 H 8 5 V
30th Sep 1905 L 10 Salford L 1905~06 A 5 25 V
14th Oct 1905 L 10 Wigan LC1 1905~06 A 0 18 V
21st Oct 1905 L 10 Runcorn L 1905~06 A 3 12 V
4th Nov 1905 W 10 Dewsbury L 1905~06 A 3 2 V
18th Nov 1905 W 10 Rochdale Hornets L 1905~06 A 11 0 V
2nd Dec 1905 L 10 Oldham L 1905~06 H 7 15 V
9th Dec 1905 W 10 Barrow L 1905~06 H 25 0 V
16th Dec 1905 W 10 Millom L 1905~06 A 2 0 V
23rd Dec 1905 L 10 Warrington L 1905~06 A 0 16 V
*Unofficial Match. **Non Playing Sub.
CALCULATED APPEARANCES : OFFICIAL 167 OTHER 11 = 178
ACTUAL APPEARANCES (inc 0 Subs) = 178

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